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Poster: Capt. Cook Date: Jun 24, 2010 1:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: VOTE! For The New PRIME MINISTER!!!

After a long consideration of Sir William Tell's rather Sudden and seemingly irreversible Resignation I have taken it upon myself to gather up here a good old fashioned Tea Party... Listening Music Please... Introductions...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd76-06-24.set2-sbd.wiley.14498.sbeok.shnf

Having gone through the many posts over the past weeks and months this is my Non-Biased, somewhat Random-But-Informed still hit list of Potential Leaders and Guiding Lights... Fess Up, You Want IT!!! And We Need YOU...

micah6vs8
lobster12
Purple Gel
Arbuthnot
RBNW....new and improved!
Cliff Hucker
AltheaRose
billydlions
ringolevio
light into ashes...

Others come to mind, Of Course... Let The Campaigns Begin!


This post was modified by Capt. Cook on 2010-06-24 08:29:47

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jun 24, 2010 6:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: VOTE! For The New PRIME MINISTER!!!


Thanks God I'm not on the List

My pick for TDIH

http://www.archive.org/details/gd_nrps70-06-24.aud.pcrp5.23062.sbeok.flacf

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 24, 2010 6:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: VOTE! For The New PRIME MINISTER!!!

Very wise pick jg .
Damn , I forgot about THE 40th Anniversary of one of all time , cream of the crop shows . As penance I must listen 2 more times today . It's part of the canon ya' know . :)

What happened to WT ? I leave for 5 days and the PM is gone ? Did he not come back and go native ? Did he get eaten by Nemo or a Manatee ?
Has he found a new favorite ?

Ah , excuse my obsessiveness , please listen to 6 / 24 / 70 today . Grokking all day long and it will make you happy

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jun 24, 2010 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: VOTE! For The New PRIME MINISTER!!!

Mr. Tell is taking a break

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=311266

Prolly the stress of being PM

:)

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Jun 24, 2010 10:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: VOTE! For The New PRIME MINISTER!!!

or is it possible he ditched us for a Cream forum somewhere ?

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 24, 2010 12:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: How do you know he's a king? He hasn't got s**t all over him.

New Prime Minister?

Heavy hangs the head that wears the crown...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAaWvVFERVA

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2010-06-24 19:23:56

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Poster: billydlions Date: Jun 24, 2010 12:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How do you know he's a king? He hasn't got s**t all over him.

And then there's always this......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUvSjPdw1Yk

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 24, 2010 12:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How do you know he's a king? He hasn't got s**t all over him.

Well played.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jun 24, 2010 8:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: VOTE! For The New PRIME MINISTER!!!

I don't think WT is replaceable.
anyway, if we've got to have a new one, it needs to be someone who, unlike me, um, knows something about the dead.

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: VOTE! For The New PRIME MINISTER!!!

Speaking of GD knowledge, what about:

robthewordsmith (should be familiar with the PM model)
Earl B. Powell (he spoke with authority, and is missed)
midnightcarousel (knowledgeable AND youthful energy - rare combo)
SkyDawg and ghostofpig (invaluable early Dead first-hand experience)

I guess Capt. was onto something be looking at more current, frequent posters, though. Gotta be a frequent enough poster to play somewhat of a moderator role.... something WT did superbly and with aplomb.

This post was modified by cosmic charlie dupree on 2010-06-24 16:05:19

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: SIGN THE PETITION FOR DUCATS

Blow me, blow him, blow you.

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: SIGN THE PETITION FOR DUCATS

Now THAT's playing the role of moderator! Well done....

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: SIGN THE PETITION FOR DUCATS

Nah, I'll leave moderating to the inevitable return of Tito.

Noise Collector and Telephone Toughguy should run on a ticket together. Allahu Akbar!

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: SIGN THE PETITION FOR DUCATS

Nope, can't run on a ticket in a parliamentary system. People vote for the party, then the party selects the PM. There's also generally either a constitutional monarch (perhaps Mr. Tell could move to this role?) or a ceremonial president whose job, near as I can figure, is to go to state dinners and do things like accept resignations.

Aha! So who is the president of this parliament, anyway? Has he or she accepted the resignation? If not, it may be a constitutional crisis.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: SIGN THE PETITION FOR DUCATS

Yes, but you forget, I'm opposed to this parliamentary democracy. I didn't sign up for it.

I say we return to the ways of our founding fathers, you know, like only white male property owners can vote (and property includes human chattel). OK, maybe not....

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jun 24, 2010 7:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: VOTE! For The New PRIME MINISTER!!!

another viable candidate or 3 in the list additions

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: VOTE! For The New PRIME MINISTER!!!

Ringolevio's point is well taken, but would knowledge be a factor in a parliamentary system? In a presidential system, actual knowledge doesn't necessarily matter for a candidacy. (Exhibit A: Alaska.) In a parliamentary system, knowledge may help, but from what I know, the main criteria for selection is longevity within the top political party (which obviously rules me out, LOL, since I've just lurked until recently) and an ability to bring in key minority parties for coalition building.

So the question becomes: Who are the key minorities constituencies here? The 60s die-hards? The No Dead After '77 group? Is the '90s Are Underrated party an important minority, or would a PM who could engage in coalition with that group spark a vote of no confidence?

And, perhaps even more key: You don't run for popular election in a parliamentary system. So can the PM actually resign without the agreement of the party?!?

This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2010-06-24 16:31:45

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jun 24, 2010 10:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: VOTE! For The New PRIME MINISTER!!!

What he did was so out of left field, maybe we can just tell him it isn't allowed, and he'll have to come back.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jun 24, 2010 8:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: VOTE! For The New PRIME MINISTER!!!

3 good possibilities on the list BUT
I don't think one of them would take the job...
one doesn't have the objectivity to handle the job..
and there is some question of the other's longevity "on the bus"

STILL...
any one of the three could handle the job admirably if they were amind to

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 24, 2010 8:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

Meet the new boss...

Whoever is elected/appointed/stages a coup, I refuse to respect their authority.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Step out of the Car please, Sir



http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/150368

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Step out of the Car please, Sir

Thanks. That was precisely the clip I was thinking of

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Poster: snori Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

Who will be first with the William T. Sherman quote ?

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Poster: high flow Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

I always pictured Tell as King Julien from Madagascar. Very pompous and proud......and a bit fruity.

I never understood why a guy who essentially dislikes 85% of what the band did on tour was PM to begin with.

Touchheads in 2010!! I want a PM who will sing the praises of all eras, not just the crusty caveman days of '68. I need a PM who can stomach the MIDI and Brent. Terrapin Station? Hell yeah! The PM must be able to find goodness in Samba and Vince. Folks who don't like Bruce need not apply.

And, please, please, PLEASE save the Cream. That's another forum. It wouldn't hurt if he could handle the rock a bit too.

I vote for Cosmic Charlie the Rastaman. He'll stress fitness through jogging and deep breathing through a bong. Who can argue??

This post was modified by high flow on 2010-06-24 16:43:03

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jun 24, 2010 10:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

I enjoy Cream

In my Coffee

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jun 25, 2010 6:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

If forced to choose between the penitentiary and the White House for four years, I would say the penitentiary, thank you.
William Tecumseh Sherman

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

Do you mean "war is hell" or "he stood by me when I was insane and I stood by him when he was a drunk"?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMHyovwX7JM

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 24, 2010 10:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

No Sherman in there. But I can see from your other post that you're a secessionist anyway ...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 24, 2010 10:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

You got me pegged.

Keep the federal government's hands off my medicare!

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

Same as the old boss ...

Authority ? Ha !

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jun 24, 2010 10:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

This has all turned kinda hilarious, we sound like we think "prime minister" is a real job here. I mean I don't want to downplay his role - just the opposite - but it was, um, informal, no? It kind of evolved over time, and was really based on personality? (A lot of knowledge of the band too of course, but that kind of goes w/o saying for someone who would even be interested in participating so enthusiastically.) He played peacemaker, basically. Now we'll turn into the Balkans, or prove completely ungovernable like Afghanistan.

William Tell, if you are listening, I think you can see we are taking this harder than maybe you imagined ... SOB ...

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jun 24, 2010 10:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

Where's the guy who always says GROUP HUG right about now?
We are grief stricken, Mr. Tell ...

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 24, 2010 11:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

Here I'll distract you ( not a group hug kinda guy , sorry ). Is it the game or the book ? I've been dying to ask you .

We won't Balkanize , too much good music and life to be lived and shared . We do need a troll or two to mix things up though , in a Roman wilderness of pain sort of way .

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jun 24, 2010 11:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

You mean ringolevio? It refers to the game, it's from the lyrics to Tiger Rose. I just liked the sound of it. Is there a book?

I hope you're right, I think we're already kinda balkanized though, i.e., prior to Tell's departure ... I think Althea laid out the three factions fairly clearly (all sixties all the time; nothing, or almost nothing, after seventy-seven; nineties are underrated). Personally, my needs are simple ... a little Jerry every day ...

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 24, 2010 11:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

Yes , there is a book written by Emmett Grogan ( who ' ran ' the Diggers ). The full title is Ringolevio : A Life Played for Keeps . It's on Amazon and probably of interest to many here . With Garcia quotes and everything

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jun 24, 2010 11:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

Thanks - That's wild - I had no idea. I'd like to read that. Had nothing to do with my name choice, I just liked the sound of it and figured if it was a children's game it would work out all right. Guess I didn't google well enough!

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 24, 2010 12:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

That is cool when stuff like this happens - great name !

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Poster: jerrys beard Date: Jun 24, 2010 1:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

Yeah on the bank where children play ring-a-levio
Come on show me somethin'
Come on show me somethin'
Come on and show me somethin' I don't know

Always liked that album and song...

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Jun 24, 2010 10:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=297852

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 24, 2010 11:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

Aha. I think I see William Tell's game here.

What does it mean to be a Leader Who Won't Lead?

Clearly, the resignation thing is a ploy. He's trying to get his title upped to Resident Jerry.



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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jun 24, 2010 11:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

He went on a long trip to Australia, and I think something happened to his head. Or one of the critters he sent us pictures of bit him. Or he just hasn't recovered from jet lag. (I'm kind of hoping to provoke him, if he's listening.)

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jun 24, 2010 8:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why a parliamentary democracy?

Well he said he would be lurking. As far as his hiatus goes, he explained and it made sense. Hopefully he'll be home soon.